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KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him


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- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 7:57 am

Reality check: Greinke's success means the clock is ticking on Dayton Moore and the Royals

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Pardon this blog if the relief and euphoria and pride of seeing Zack Greinke win baseball's highest pitching honor hasn't yet faded, but there is a fast-approaching reality that the Royals will have to face.

They now have anywhere from 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 years to build a contender around the game's best pitcher, or risk losing the franchise's greatest asset since George Brett.

Dayton Moore's most important move as general manager of the Royals came last January, before Greinke's breakout season, when he signed the emerging ace to a contract extension through 2012.

Greinke agreed to the deal -- extending his potential free agency two years -- in large part because he liked the direction of the franchise.

This was Greinke in spring training: "I mean, we might not win the World Series, but we have the talent that we could make a run at it."

This was Greinke in July: "The way we've been playing, it's as bad as any team I've played for."

And this was Greinke on Tuesday, when asked if he felt as strongly about the Royals' future as he did after he signed the extension: "Maybe not as strong as that time, because at that time I really thought we had as good a chance as anyone to win our division. Obviously, we didn't even come close, so my thoughts aren't quite as strong as they were."

Winning is important to all athletes, of course, or at least most, but Greinke is different here.

This is the guy who said he'd rather pitch for a winner in Wichita than a loser in Kansas City, remember?

In Kansas City, Royals fans celebrated when he told the New York media he'd rather pitch for the Royals in the playoffs than the Yankees, and while it's true that Greinke would probably prefer not to pitch in New York, he could make most any other big league market work -- Anaheim, Arizona, Chicago, on and on.

Even during the press conference announcing his extension, he mentioned Tampa and Miami as places "I would like more than this," because he's from Florida.

Hell, what about St. Louis? That's a smaller market with a team that consistently competes and a fan base that would both love him and respect his space -- plus, he could hit.

The point is, as much ownership as Kansas City feels from having watched Greinke rise, fall, and rise again, baseball is a business and Greinke is already tired of the losing. If Greinke's contract comes up without him having experienced at least some team success in Kansas City, it will probably be impossible for the Royals to keep him.

And there will be 29 other teams tripping over themselves to sign or trade for Greinke, if and when he becomes available.

Greinke talked a little on Tuesday about the possibility of catcher Miguel Olivo signing somewhere else: "That's baseball. Back in the day, I used to get mad because every time I'd make a good friend, he would get sent down or traded or whatever. That's how baseball is nowadays. Your best friends are only with you one year, at most, a lot of times. So you just kind of get used to it."

Losing Greinke without ever building a winner around him would be a special kind of hurt for Royals fans.

The good news is that the team has Greinke under contract three more years.

The bad news is they have a lot of improving to do in that time.

 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 7:58 am

they hold the cards in a potential trade

 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 7:59 am

Yell
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:00 am

http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity
.com/?q=node/1628


forgot to post the link
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:02 am

They should have traded him in July.  This is the only way they can speed up the 20 year rebuilding process.  Trade him now, get three major league ready players, and watch the team improve by 2011.  

The three Royals fans on this board will disagree with me, but thats fine.  I want to see a better team, not the aberration of having one stud pitcher and nothing else around him. 
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:09 am

If they plan on trading him within the next few seasons, I hope the Red Sox stay away from him. As good as he is, it took him a while to be able to handle the pressure of...Kansas City. He's a headcase. He might commit suicide the night before his first game on a Fenway mound. Tongue out
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:13 am

He's a headcase. He might commit suicide the night before his first game on a Fenway mound


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I have to agree. The kid is so shy it's painful to watch.


You can tell the press and attention he's getting is really bothering him. He won't even make eye contact with people  interviewing him.

NY or Boston is not the place for him. To his credit, I think he knows it.
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:14 am

i agree bigbfan

let aone what he will cost in players/prospects, the return might not be all that great in a city like boston
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:19 am

NY or Boston is not the place for him. To his credit, I think he knows it. The only people who actually want to play in those places are those who think that the $150 million they have already made in their careers is not enough, or dont have enough confidence in the ir abilities to go to a team that actually needs them.

Going to NY or Boston is chickenshit****
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:21 am

come on man

thats just terribly wrong
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:24 am

come on man

thats just terribly wrong
You know its true.

Piggybacking off of Sabathia, Rivera, ARod, Teixeira is cowardly.

Go to a team that actually needs you. 
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:32 am

Piggybacking off of Sabathia, Rivera, ARod, Teixeira is cowardly.

Who will he "piggyback" off in Boston??
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:34 am

This is the reason baseball needs a REAL salary cap.  I hate that the Yankees AND Red Sox can BUY Championships.

 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:35 am

You know its true.

Piggybacking off of Sabathia, Rivera, ARod, Teixeira is cowardly.

Go to a team that actually needs you. 




unreal

 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:36 am

Who will he "piggyback" off in Boston?? Beckett, Bay and a few other mercenaries they pick up this offseason.

Probably Holliday, Lackey and Figgins

 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:37 am

This is the reason baseball needs a REAL salary cap.  I hate that the Yankees AND Red Sox can BUY Championships.

Welcome to the disscussion Phillies fan, of coruse your team losing to the Yankees has no merit on this post right?

 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:38 am

but its cool if any other team does the same...just the sox and yanks = the problem

not the Mets, Dodgers, Cardinals, Angels, etc
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:40 am

This is the reason baseball needs a REAL salary cap.  I hate that the Yankees AND Red Sox can BUY ChampionshipsYeah, because FINALLY the team with the highest payroll won the World Series.

Salary cap accomplishes nothing. 
 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:40 am

This is the reason baseball needs a REAL salary cap.  I hate that the Yankees AND Red Sox can BUY Championships.

.............

A little bitter, are we?


I eagerly await your next column. I even have a title for you.

"A dynasty derailed"


Whaddya think?



Laughing

 
- KC Star: Greinke's already gone, let's enjoy him
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November 19, 2009 8:42 am

Beckett, Bay and a few other mercenaries they pick up this offseason.


Replace Beckett with Lester.