Should we wave goodbye to Clinton Portis?

- Should we wave goodbye to Clinton Portis?

redskin81hof Reputation:99 Level:Superstar Since:Feb 24, 2007
	November 15, 2009 4:52 pm Score: 123
	I say yes. Not be cause Betts did so greatm but because everyone has done better than Portis. Mason, Betts, Cartwright, you name it. He is done. If he really is so beaten up that he can no longer practice then he cant play. If he is not that beat up and just doesn't practice, then he cannot play. The players interviewed said Betts success comes from practicing with the line. They know where he is going to be and when he will get there. With Portis he doesn't practice enough to get the rythm with the line. We blame the line, but the other backs on this team all have good averages.
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- Should we wave goodbye to Clinton Portis?

District of C 9 Reputation:97 Level:Superstar Since:Aug 17, 2009
	November 15, 2009 8:17 pm Score: 145
	81hof, I agree 100%. I've been saying that for a while now. But you are right, CP is donezo. I think this kid Quintin Gaither played well too. I don't even think Clinton Portis is better then him right now. These young kids are playing like they want to beat up on the other team. There is no quit in them, and every Albert Haynesworth basher out there needs to look at what he is doing for Jeremy Jarmon, Brian Orakpo and Andre Carter. But not to get too far off topic, the line and the plays look the same, but the kids are just "executing" them better then the vets who sit out practice do (I know Betts and Rock Cartwright are vets also, but I am reffering to guys coming in for the starters. And how big is this guy Levi Jones playing after one game. The rest of the Division is reeling right now...gosh, listen to me....I sound like we have a shot at the playoffs if we play like that the rest of the year. I hope so. Vinny still sucks. HAIL!
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- Should we wave goodbye to Clinton Portis?

redskin81hof Reputation:99 Level:Superstar Since:Feb 24, 2007
	November 15, 2009 9:10 pm Score: 122
	nobody is worth what we paid Haynesworth but as far as I am concerned he has done exactly what he was brought here to do. He is clogging up the middle and making everyone else on the line better. He taking up two lineman on each play and allowing the rest of the line to put more pressure on the QB without blitzing. That said, we should blits a lot more especially against young and inexperienced QB's. I wanted Levi Jones when he got cut, I also would have had Kendall back here. No way half the guys we have are better than him. There were a few other OL out there we should have picked up. We should have used the money spent on Dockery to get two other guys. Dockery was over rated when he was here the first time and it was a blessing that Buffalo over spent to take him form us, now we over paid to get him back. Anyway, I hate to say this but this win hurt us today. I would have been happy losing 30-27. We need to have as high a pick as possible next year so we can decide to draft a QB or trade down to get a QB and a RB in the late first and early second round. I would prefer to trade down, pick up a veteran QB like maybe Hassleback, and draft a RB high in the draft. Betts is not durable and Cartwright is not a starting back. Unless the team knows something we don't about Portis, he is done. He wore down after 8 games last year and this year didn't even make it out of preseason. My personal feeling is he doesn't understand that as a RB he is old and that he has to be in better shape so he can practice. The offensive line does open holes and Portis is still choosing which way to pitty pat through when they close up. Our line is not good enough to engage the defense long enough to do that, but they do engage them long enough for a downhill runner to get through. Clinton's 2 and 3 yard runs are 4 and 5 yard runs whenevr anyone else is in there. If next year truly is an uncapped year it is time to dump Clinton's contract. If we don't draft a #1 back there has to be a FA available that wants to be the feature back here.
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NEGivnSundae Reputation:97 Level:Superstar Since:Jul 25, 2007
	November 15, 2009 9:20 pm Score: 58
	yes. Portis is a goner in Washington.
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arichter66 Reputation:90 Level:All-Star Since:Dec 31, 2008
	November 16, 2009 8:14 pm Score: 59
	Yes his career is done. Each game he looks slower and slower. Ladell Betts and Rock aren't the future but they can get the job done for now.
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donjon4 Reputation:18 Level:Amateur Since:Nov 18, 2009
	November 18, 2009 2:33 pm Score: 104
	ABSOLUTELY! I am a huge Clinton Portis fan, but his time has past. His injuries have piled on top of each other, and it seems as if that has taken a toll on how he plays this game. He was great because he played with great heart and spirit and now it seems like his love for the game has diminished along with his passion for being one of the great runningbacks of all time. HOWEVER, I would caution those that agree with me about getting rid of him. If he were to go to another team, there has been a very impressive pattern of success for EX-Redskins players once they leave Washington.
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rdsredskins14 Reputation:96 Level:Superstar Since:Apr 14, 2009
	November 18, 2009 3:22 pm Score: 125
	I agree with what everyone is saying, but apparently Jim Zorn does not. I was just reading an article about he said that "Portis is still their guy," so unfortunately, probably not this week, maybe the following game against the Eagles, Portis should be back unless someone hopefully steps in and tells Zorn to put Portis on IR and let Betts finish off the season. Who knows though CP is always having nagging injuries throughout the season, maybe this 3-4 week break is good for him and if he does come back this season he may be back to his regular self. I still say go with Betts for the rest of the season, he just seems to want it more than CP does, and his down-hill running style is fit perfectly for our offense and o-line, rather than Portis's cut back, slashing type style.
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slam251 Reputation:95 Level:Superstar Since:Aug 27, 2006
	November 19, 2009 5:48 pm Score: 125
	I've been here all week reading what everyone had to say and I agree with everyone who thinks Portis is done as a starter or full time back, which has been everyone. Thank you for all the years you have given the Redskins, even though at times you did not know when to keep your mouth shut. Thank you for being the complete back, even though you did not like to practice and acted like a prima donna at times. It has come time in your career to step aside and let the less banged up who practice hard and younger with heart & desire who want to step up and play. Not hatin on you, you gave the Skins a lot of good football years but you've lost that step and it's time.
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Antz Reputation:96 Level:Superstar Since:Aug 30, 2006
	November 22, 2009 12:59 am Score: 112
	JEEZ...all of you guys are so premeditated cliff jumpers...it's freaking disgusting. The guy has been the best player on the team for years and after one game you're ready to toss him into the trash bin and promote Ladell Betts to God. Stop throwing Clinton Portis off a cliff and go jump off it yourselves. If he's done everyone will know it when it happens. No need to try and predict something like that. It will be a sad day when it happens. At least he actually wanted to win.
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slam251 Reputation:95 Level:Superstar Since:Aug 27, 2006
	November 22, 2009 12:23 pm Score: 130
	Antz... we understand he is your super hero, and I am not being a smart arse, but what has Clinton Portis done the last year for the Redskins? I think you are over reacting a little, nobody is promoting anyone to God. The first half of 2008, yes, Portis terrorized, then the injuries on the oline & he wore down the second half and couldn't carry the load. He started out 2009 the same way, hurt, could not find the holes, lost a step, blamed the line, Sellers wasn't blocking, blah, blah blah, I'm not practicing. He did have a 78 yd run, got caught from behind, if I am not mistaken, that is his only 100 yd game. Now all of the sudden, other RB's who have been practicing all along, for some reason, they can find the holes and gain some yards. Maybe he just needs to share his carries, these other guys are producing now.
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Posse87 Reputation:96 Level:Superstar Since:Mar 26, 2008
	November 23, 2009 12:21 pm Score: 104
	Does anyone know the Cap hit we'd take by releasing CP this offseason? If it is drastic, let him stick around and put an O-line around him. He isn't that far removed from being a great RB but I agree that he is on the downward sled to his career. It isn't worth a huge cap hit to release him then I'd say let him stay.
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redskin81hof Reputation:99 Level:Superstar Since:Feb 24, 2007
	November 23, 2009 5:06 pm Score: 124
	I think that is the beauty of it posse. If it is an uncapped year you simply have to get rid of him now to avoid the cap hit ever. If it is a capped year I believe he goes for about 8 million if we keep him until after June. For 8 million you go out and draft a starting back and structures his contract so that he is not a cap burden for at least 3 years. In other words you have time because of the low cap hit of the new player to absorb Portis hit one year, and if you are right you get better production. RB is one of the positions where you can step right in and make an impact. And I am also not promoting Betts to anything. That guy is made of glass too. He barely plays butis never healthy, and now after 30 carries he is on the IR. He was a wasted signing. THey should have not resigned him at all and you would have Mason still on the team.
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joemva1 Reputation:81 Level:All-Star Since:Nov 30, 2009
	November 30, 2009 12:51 am Score: 44
	1 thing we all should remember .why did denver trade portist to start with ? to many times injured . What has he done for dc ? spend a good portion of the seasons hurt or fumbled the ball . watching him before he got hurt he acted like he didnt care for the game much .standing around hands on his hips glaceing into the tv cameras.Yes he broke some records ( injured player ones or fumbles ) so why not save some money retire or trade him ? let the rookies who wanna win stay playing ,or even better let mike cellers do the job like he has asked to do ,and have mason and bets on roll plays and roll models .I didnt even see portist at the game today ? I have been a redskin fan all my life never missed a home game in the 7os and 80s against the Cowboys, It seems to me when portist is their he brings a attatude of i dont care i just want my pay check, Now that he is out these players are playing with some spunk and fire in them ,ya we lost 2 tough games but they showed they had team spirit and was will to fight for everything for the team and city ( Redskins pride ) just my 2 cents worth but I say Trade him save some money
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redskins4life1 Reputation:94 Level:All-Star Since:Apr 20, 2008
	December 4, 2009 9:54 am Score: 35
	i myself,believe that portis needs to go.he is used upbut still good trade bait.try and get that 3rd round back for him.and as far as drafing a rb in the 1st round would be another bloundeer on the skins part.this team need o-line period and should look at nothing else until they get some quality players on the line. the way all teams are useing the 2 back system anymore the skins should follow the example and take some of the work load off one back and get a smash mouth type and follow up with a slice and dice back,they have neither in any back theey have.but either way none of this will matter unless the #1 PROBLEM IS TAKEN CARE OF THE O-LINE.
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alex35332 Reputation:91 Level:All-Star Since:Sep 8, 2009
	December 4, 2009 10:47 am Score: 97
	I don't have his cap and contract info in front of me, but if the NFLPA gets their deal done with the league I think Portis is un-tradable and has a big cap hit. If thats the case I think we keep him as our no 2 back /3rd down back, the one thing we can still get out of him I think is he is a good pass blocker and could be a good shotgun back / safety valve. But the team needs someone else to get the bulk of the carries from hear on out.
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s-daddy Reputation:98 Level:Superstar Since:Jan 27, 2007
	December 4, 2009 11:19 pm Score: 133
	I think CP is done in Washington, he has not shown any burst in the last two years. I don't know if it is losing games or if he is washed up??? When he came to DC he had a fire that was fun to watch, now it seems he may even be a cancer on this team. The other backs seem to hit the hole better and look faster than CP does. Maybe he needs a fresh start, but I think the Skins need one too. Draft a back and use Betts when he recovers from his injury and they will be fine. I think Zorn is just saying he likes Portis because he knows he is done in DC and doesn't want any more bad press. Portis needs to move on to another team, hope the Skins cut ties with him and start over.
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