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Former Kansas players criticize Mangino's tactics

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Kansas officials are willing to talk with former players about allegations of abusive behavior by football coach Mark Mangino -- and two former players had plenty to say on Thursday.

 

Former Jayhawks receiver Raymond Brown recalled how in 2007, after his younger brother was wounded in a shooting near his home in St. Louis, teammates gathered around and warmly pledged their support.

A few days later, Brown said, an angry Mangino ordered him to the sideline during practice and made a shockingly insensitive comment.

"He went off on me yelling, which is fine," Brown told the Associated Press. "I kept saying, 'Yes, sir, yes, sir,' to everything he was saying. A teammate asked me what happened. Then he started on me again and I said, 'Yes, sir,' and he said, 'Don't you 'yes sir' me. I'll send you back to St. Louis where you can get shot by your homies."'

Brown and another former player also told the AP that Mangino made insensitive comments about a player's father being an alcoholic.

A spokesman said Mangino, who needs three victories to become the winningest coach in school history, was not returning calls Thursday. He has said he has done nothing wrong.

The university this week confirmed that it is investigating allegations of verbal and emotional abuse by Mangino, the 2007 national coach of the year.

The probe by associate athletic director for risk management Lori Williams began Sunday after senior linebacker Arist Wright complained to athletic director Lew Perkins that Mangino had poked him in the chest while chewing him out.

None of the players interviewed by the AP had been contacted by the school, but they likely will.

"Lori Williams will talk to whomever she feels she needs to talk to to conduct this review," associate athletic director Jim Marchiony said Thursday. "It will be thorough."

Mangino maintains he has done nothing wrong and is fully focused on getting the Jayhawks (5-5, 1-5 Big 12) ready to play at No. 3 Texas this Saturday.

"I have not done anything that's inappropriate," Mangino said after practice Wednesday night. "I have been in this conference for nearly 20 years, and what I can tell you is that our coaching intensity does not largely differ from the other Big Eight and Big 12 teams that I have observed. We have handled this program in terms of intensity and holding players accountable the same since 2002 to today."

Nevertheless, a rising tide of criticism seems to be threatening Mangino's job just two years after he received a raise and contract extension for going 12-1 in 2007 and beating Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl. While some players voiced support for their coach, many former players have bitterly recalled instances where they say his comments went over the line.

Brown and former wide receiver Dexton Fields said a player was having a bad practice one day when Mangino became exasperated. They said they did not want to embarrass the player by naming him.

"He wanted to be a lawyer," Brown said in a telephone interview from his home in St. Louis. "He messed up, and Mangino said to his face, in front of everybody, `You want to be a lawyer? You're going to be an alcoholic just like your dad."'

Fields, speaking from his home in Lawrence, said he was present.

"We all knew his father had a drinking problem," he said.

Mangino also said on the radio interview that some of the problems stemmed from players' parents.

"I can't do the work of some parents, what they should have done before they got to me. And some of those guys are bitter. And some that's the problem. And I can't do anything about that."

After starting 5-0 and rising to No. 16 in the AP poll, the Jayhawks have lost five in a row. Mangino indicated this week that the investigation was related to the losing streak.

"I've seen some instances where he said some pretty mean things to people," Fields said. "Did that motivate guys to play hard? Yes and no. It got you mad. So when you went out onto the field you had to do whatever you needed to do to take your anger out. But I don't think it makes you a better player. The negative outweighed the positive."

Senior quarterback Todd Reesing, a Mangino supporter, noted the program was in shambles when Mangino arrived in 2002.

"He's always been very stern in his resolve," Reesing said. "He came here to a team that was undisciplined and a program that lacked it and he established discipline and got guys to work hard and believe in themselves. He's done a lot of good things. The way he's approached football is the way a lot of coaches approach it."

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Reputation:96
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Since:Oct 12, 2009

November 20, 2009 10:19 am
I love the people who are saying that KU is too liberal and everyone should get over it. Telling players that they should "go get shot by their homies" and that they will become alcoholics "just like their father" is not coaching, that is attacking. No coach out there has the right to get that personal in a student's life. In the NFL, ...(more)
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Since:Jun 27, 2007

November 20, 2009 11:36 am

This issue will negatively impact recruiting.  THAT is why it will cost Mangino his job.  The way that Mangino is wording his responses, continuously using the word "intensity" and blaming the parents, seems to go hand in hand with the accusations.  In his mind, telling a kid that he's going to be an alcoholic like his father is being an intense coach and blaming the ki ...(more)

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Since:Jan 23, 2009

November 20, 2009 5:43 pm
I am a die-hard KU fan.  It seems pretty unavoidable now that Mangino will eventually be fired.  I have no doubt that he is a gruff person who can rub many people the wrong way.  But I seriously, seriously doubt there has been any physical abuse (I don't count grabbing a facemask or poking someone in the chest to be abusive), and I don't think Mangino's coaching "style" is ...(more)
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Since:Dec 4, 2006

November 20, 2009 7:52 pm
Pun intended.  Mangino comes across as a really angry morbidly obese guy.  Perhaps he's angry because he can't see his winkie anymore ?  Who knows.  Bob Knights tirades were legendary compared to this crap.  Going to the men's room and coming out with dirty toilet was paper was one.  I think Mangino might be too fat to use a normal toilet.
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Since:Dec 13, 2008

November 20, 2009 10:50 am
How could a football player make it to a D1 program if he was going to run cry like a little b*tch everytime someone yelled at him and poked him in the chest.  How could you even go back to your teamates and admit that you went to the administration because of that.  Does he also call his Mom every time another player hits him in a game?  That is the most pathetic thing I have ever ...(more)
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Since:Nov 12, 2007

November 19, 2009 5:16 pm

This is the biggest joke I have seen in a long while. We are talking about football, right? If Mangino, the entire reason KU is where they are, is released because he poked a kid in the chest or made a couple of insensitive comments, then KU should consider dropping the football program entirely, and start a touch football league for these whiny little b i t c h e s. These KU players need ...(more)

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Since:Nov 11, 2006

November 19, 2009 4:58 pm
I would be real surprised if he is there next year (and possibly the rest of this year). I am not sure what the original investigation is about. Rumors is he physically contacted players. The fact that former players are also coming forward about verbal abuse will probably be the clincher. Some people would say the verbal abuse is nothing but you can step over the line and the two quotes I saw wer ...(more)
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Since:Sep 23, 2006

November 21, 2009 3:03 pm
"Awww, my feelings  were hurt by the big bad coach.  I used to get a trophy and a pat on the back no matter what!  Gee, growing up sure is painful when everyone has been telling me how great I am since I was in diapers.  Waaaa  Waaaaa Waaaaa."
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Since:Nov 22, 2007

November 19, 2009 4:50 pm
To state that athletes should have to live with physical as well as verbal abuse is ridiculous.  Why would players want to come to a place where former players are saying that it was a terrible place to be?  There is a difference between a coach who yells at you, but does it in such a way that you know he wants the best for you and a coach who yells at you to belittle you and terrorize y ...(more)
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November 20, 2009 10:04 am
Let me preface this by saying that I'm as diehard a sports, football fan as there.  I live for it, love it.  In addition, I'm getting tired of living in a liberal society where kids can't have trophies and reward championships, because "everyone's a winner" and all that crap.

HOWEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Having said that, you do have to draw a line.  And,
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Reputation:99
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Since:Dec 1, 2007

November 19, 2009 6:25 pm
I am not saying Mangino's comments were appropriate, but college football players are so coddled these days it is ridiculous.  My football coaches said much worse than that to me and guys I played with.  We weren't pampered, couch potatoes back then.  I wonder if kids liked everything Bear Bryant said to them, but they weren't tattle tales about it.
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November 19, 2009 4:51 pm
Wow all of a sudden this like-able coach has become hell to do with, first he gets in a screaming match with campus police over a ticket then this pops up not to mention what was going on between the UFC match with the basketball team. With all that plus the fact that this team is way underachieving it just seems like a change is in the works to be made. As a KU fan I am sick and tired of hearing ...(more)
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Since:Dec 3, 2006

November 19, 2009 5:33 pm
Maybe he can give them baby bottles and snugglies why they practice.  I am sorry, but Mangino cannot rough up a football player.  He is not in the best shape and will not be able to hurt a young fit college football player.  KU Players, grow a thick skin and stop your whinning.
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Since:Sep 8, 2006

November 19, 2009 10:39 pm

If Mangino is so abusive, why are we just now hearing about it?  I have a theory...  I think that all the players who had a problem with him in the past were warned not to open their mouths.  When they threatened to go public with the abusive tactics, Mangino ate them.  If Raymond Brown ends up missing, we'll know what happened...

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November 19, 2009 5:06 pm
Didn't know they grew pansies so small and weak down on the farm.
 
 
 
 
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