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Pac catching flack as teams stumble from gate

What's the only thing more all over the place than Pac-10 football?

Pac-10 basketball.

What's more futile than Pac-10 basketball?

Les Miles' clock management.

(But just barely.)

"And the hits keep coming for the Pac-10," ESPN analyst Doug Gottlieb said early Tuesday during halftime of the Arizona-Wisconsin game that completed the first round of the Maui Invitational. "Montana goes into Mac Court and beats [Oregon] by 13, this after Oregon State lost to Sac State, who won two games last year. The Pac-10 is down, folks. Way down."

Mike Montgomery watched his Bears get pounded by then-unranked Syracuse at MSG last week. (Getty Images)  
Mike Montgomery watched his Bears get pounded by then-unranked Syracuse at MSG last week. (Getty Images)  
Make that way, way, way down.

Like the ratings for NBC's Heroes.

In fairness, most knew this would be a rough year for the Pac-10 because 11 of the 15 players who last season earned all-league honors are gone, including the nine who were selected in the 2009 NBA Draft. Combine that with the fact that only one of Scout.com's top 20 prospects from the Class of 2009 (Abdul Gaddy) enrolled at a Pac-10 school, and it's no surprise that the Pac-10 is the worst of the power conferences.

But this bad?

Nobody expected it to be this bad.

California, otherwise known as the Pac-10 favorite, went to New York and got pounded by Syracuse before losing to Ohio State. Meantime, UCLA has already lost to Cal State Fullerton, Southern California to Loyola Marymount, Oregon to Montana, Stanford to Oral Roberts. And then there's Oregon State, which, after entering the season with some hype, is off to a 1-3 start. Who would've imagined it would be easier for President Obama to achieve health-care reform than it would be for his brother-in-law to avoid losses to Big Sky members? But on the same night the Senate Democrats got the 60 votes needed to bring their version of health-care reform to the Senate floor for debate, Craig Robinson lost 65-63 to Sacramento State, a team that was picked last in the Big Sky primarily because it finished 2-27 last season.

Thank God there are no midterm elections in college basketball.

If so, some coaches would be in trouble.

So now what?

Well, if you're a Pac-10 fan you're left hoping Theo Robertson (injured foot) gets healthy and elevates Cal, that Nikola Dragovic (suspended indefinitely) is reinstated while the other Bruins start to mature and lead UCLA to the Top 25, that ASU's Herb Sendek is clever enough to win with a subpar roster, that Nic Wise is talented enough to carry Arizona until Sean Miller rebuilds the program, and that Washington is just as good as Washington looks. If all that happens, maybe, just maybe, the Pac-10 can somehow put four teams in the NCAA tournament.

But three is more likely.

And two might be more like it.

And please don't bother with those East Coast bias e-mails.

Again, Cal State Fullerton beat UCLA. Montana beat Oregon. Loyola-Marymount beat Southern California. Oral Roberts beat Stanford. Sacramento State beat Oregon State. Syracuse destroyed California in New York. And I just watched Wisconsin take a 13-0 lead and go on to record a 65-61 victory over Arizona.

Bottom line, the Pac-10 is a mess from top to bottom with few exceptions.

That's not a bias.

That's a message delivered courtesy of the Big Sky.

 
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November 25, 2009 1:12 am

I'm disappointed in Oregon's start. Thought the Ducks were a darkhorse in the conference. Should have factored in Ernie Kent. Damn.

UCLA and Arizona will be fine. Both clubs will take some hits early, but will grow and gather enough steam to be a factor in conference. As much of a west coast homer as I am, I'm also a realist, I really can't argue with Parrish. From wha ...(more)

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November 25, 2009 12:17 pm

PAC-10 basketball is usually the most fun to watch of any conference in my opinion but the PAC-10 was obviously going to be way down this year.  It's not just the talent that left last year either- remember 3 of the top 5 picks and 5 of the top 11 in the 2008 NBA draft were freshmen or sophmores from the PAC-10.  Add in Arizona having a difficult time recruiting and losing c ...(more)

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November 25, 2009 4:29 pm
Granted California has been beat twice and they were beat BAD by Syracuse, but I am at a loss as to why everyone seems to be jumping ship on them. This is, in my opinion, their case for cedibility.

They lost to Ohio State by 6 (OSU lost to UNC by only 4).
They lost by 22 to (THEN unranked) Syracuse. The Syracuse game was in NY, practically a home game, and then they went on to b
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November 25, 2009 1:39 pm
I just want to say this: I'm a Cal fan, and this is exactly what I said would happen to Cal.  Their interior game is barely better than last year, if it's better at all.  They relied so heavily on unreal 3-pt shooting last year, can't possibly shoot that well again.  There's just no way they are better than last season.
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November 24, 2009 8:06 pm
I have yet to read any article that he praised anyone in the pac 10, and I always see him underrating teams and players. Where's the journalistic integrity in this article? All it is is a bashing of the pac 10 with little content. He conveniently leaves out the three undefeated teams, including the other favorite, Washington. He also forgets to mention that Cal lost to two ranked teams, including ...(more)
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November 24, 2009 6:23 pm
That's really all there is to say.

Just mother of holy damn.

The Pac-10 in 2004 was better than this.

Jesus loving holy damn of mother.
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November 24, 2009 10:42 pm
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UCLA 80, Memphis 88   November 23 2005, in a game that wasn't as close as the score.

<h2 style="font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; color: #222222; font-weight: bold;"> UCLA 50 v. Memphis 45 March 2006
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November 24, 2009 8:53 pm
The Pac 10---this year---stinks. But it's early in the season and my guess is that a couple of these squads turn it on as the season progresses. Arizona didn't get spanked by Wisconsin, though, as the jumped out to a 13-0 lead comment may lead you to believe. 
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November 24, 2009 6:30 pm
Washington, the other favourite, is 4-0 and 2 unlikely teams are also undefeated: Arizona State and Washington State.
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November 24, 2009 11:49 pm
(POLL) Since were in such a scattered position, who would be favored to win, because its safe to say there is no clear winner.
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November 25, 2009 11:58 pm
Considering you picked Stanford last in the PAC-10 (or was it 9th?) does that mean UK would finish 8th then...how weak is that?
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November 25, 2009 4:01 pm



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